Original GPW Soviet cap?

fpicoli · 08-04-2018, 04:53 PM

Hi
i would apreciate some information about this cap.
Is it original ww2 period soviet cap or not?
Any opinion would be welcome.
Best regards

fpicoli

***desantnik*** · 08-04-2018, 11:43 PM

It appears to be a period army cap. Why do you describe it as NKVD?

fpicoli · 08-05-2018, 12:25 AM

My mistake.
It is original ww2 type or post war?

***desantnik*** · 08-05-2018, 12:46 AM

To me it looks from the "period." Whether it was manufactured prior to 9 May 1945 or the day after, no one will be able to determine.

Bill Garvy · 08-05-2018, 06:49 AM

This ensemble has been assessed as an artificially aged reproduction with a post-war cap star. I share this assessment.

***CtahhR*** · 08-05-2018, 07:20 AM

It seems to be a theatrical prop that someone has taken a little bit too far.

The seller's username seems to say more than any images would.

That being said, if you wanted to get a high quality reproduction tailored to order hat/cap 10 or so years ago, the costs could be surprising. Getting any sort of hat made to order isn't cheap (take it from someone who is a size 63) but as soon as the piece of headgear goes from a practical to collectable purpose, the value usually almost vanishes.

For this example, I suppose the only practical application it has now would be to become part of a display or used as an educational prop.

Caution should always be used in the purchase of headgear. The fake/reproduction market is so lucrative, it seems redundant to fake/reproduce awards by comparison.

charlet · 08-05-2018, 07:52 AM

Onyone would have a picture of genuine cloth to make a pedagogical comparison?

fpicoli · 08-05-2018, 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by charlet

Onyone would have a picture of genuine cloth to make a pedagogical comparison?

That would be nice. To have some original for comparision.

I really couldnt find any red flag besides de post war star. Im not an expert, by the way. But i looked at the other items from the same seller and was a little concearned about the originality.

Bill Garvy · 08-05-2018, 12:30 PM

When in doubt, I prefer to err on the side of caution. . .

charlet · 08-05-2018, 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fpicoli

That would be nice. To have some original for comparision.

I really couldnt find any red flag besides de post war star. Im not an expert, by the way. But i looked at the other items from the same seller and was a little concearned about the originality.

You can find a cool item in a bunch of crap, but very rarely a genuine WW-era cap...

08-04-2018, 11:43 PM	#2
*desantnik* Forum Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Eurasia Posts: 2,340	Re: Original GPW Soviet NKVD cap? It appears to be a period army cap. Why do you describe it as NKVD?

08-05-2018, 12:25 AM	#3
fpicoli Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 17	Re: Original GPW Soviet NKVD cap? My mistake. It is original ww2 type or post war?

08-05-2018, 12:46 AM	#4
*desantnik* Forum Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Eurasia Posts: 2,340	Re: Original GPW Soviet cap? To me it looks from the "period." Whether it was manufactured prior to 9 May 1945 or the day after, no one will be able to determine.

08-05-2018, 06:49 AM	#5
Bill Garvy Comrade Curmudgeon Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 2,642	Re: Original GPW Soviet cap? *This ensemble has been assessed as an artificially aged reproduction with a post-war cap star. I share this assessment.*

08-05-2018, 07:20 AM	#6
*CtahhR* Forum Administrator Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Deep In The Archives. Age: 17 Posts: 12,074	Re: Original GPW Soviet cap? It seems to be a theatrical prop that someone has taken a little bit too far. The seller's username seems to say more than any images would. That being said, if you wanted to get a high quality reproduction tailored to order hat/cap 10 or so years ago, the costs could be surprising. Getting any sort of hat made to order isn't cheap (take it from someone who is a size 63) but as soon as the piece of headgear goes from a practical to collectable purpose, the value usually almost vanishes. For this example, I suppose the only practical application it has now would be to become part of a display or used as an educational prop. Caution should always be used in the purchase of headgear. The fake/reproduction market is so lucrative, it seems redundant to fake/reproduce awards by comparison. __________________ "Signed with his own rubber stamp"

08-05-2018, 07:52 AM	#7
charlet Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Germany Age: 49 Posts: 791	Re: Original GPW Soviet cap? Onyone would have a picture of genuine cloth to make a pedagogical comparison? __________________ Sebastien "a spectre haunts Europe, the spectre of communism" (a well-known german bearbed)

08-05-2018, 12:30 PM	#9
Bill Garvy Comrade Curmudgeon Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 2,642	Re: Original GPW Soviet cap? *When in doubt, I prefer to err on the side of caution. . .* Last edited by Bill Garvy; 08-05-2018 at 12:34 PM.

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