What can you tell me about these two?

EricFG · 04-26-2011, 06:22 PM

I've got a chance to aquire these two. I don't neccessarily think either are "fake", I just need a bit of help.
One is an honored railway employee badge that seems to have an enamel chip and a repaired screwpost. Other than being ugly (which isn't always bad) I think it's just fine but the condition ought to devalue it a fair amount. Maybe 50% do you think?
The school diamond I can't readily identify but I'm guessing generally 70s/80s era, unofficial and nickle silver?
Any thoughts or comments are invited as are thanks in advance for your help.

EricFG · 04-26-2011, 07:19 PM

ВВМИУ = VVMIU = Higher Naval School Inzhenenernoe = Высшее Военно Морское Инжененерное Училище ???

deValcourt · 04-26-2011, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by EricFG

ВВМИУ = VVMIU = Higher Naval School Inzhenenernoe = Высшее Военно Морское Инжененерное Училище ???

Yes.

The railroad badge, no more than $20 - if you are feeling generous.

The academy badge is worth what you want to pay for it (minimum 30% lower than anything in Avers).:)

Phillip

EricFG · 04-27-2011, 08:38 PM

Thanks for the help, gents.
So 70s or 80s, private purchase, unofficial but allowed on the uniform for the School rhombus?

deValcourt · 04-27-2011, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by EricFG

Thanks for the help, gents.
So 70s or 80s, private purchase, unofficial but allowed on the uniform for the School rhombus?

Could be. I'm not a big fan of the name plate. In fact, I get the impression Fred Flintstone did the carving.:rolleyes:

If you want one in better shape, just PM me. I have a few more than I need.

Phillip

Lapa · 04-28-2011, 01:11 AM

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Originally Posted by EricFG

Thanks for the help, gents.
So 70s or 80s, private purchase, unofficial but allowed on the uniform for the School rhombus?

Guys,

Why do you call these "Private Purchase" and "Unofficial"???

Educational institutions had a choice (limited, true, but nevertheless) of possible suppliers: the official mints (LMD, MMD) and other badge manufacturing companies (Pobeda, LenEmaler, etc). Some educational institutions ordered their graduate badges from the mints, some from those companies (which were all at the time - need I remind you - state owned, so no private enterprise to be seen anywhere).

Marc

EricFG · 04-28-2011, 06:42 AM

Because with no Red Book to guide us on this all I have is the theories floated in places like this to go on.
My understanding was the graduates, post 1950 something, bought these themselves hence the term 'private purchase'. Maybe my terminology is incorrect.

Lapa · 04-28-2011, 04:02 PM

Eric,

As far as I know, graduates received their diploma and a badge upon graduation; no need to run around purchasing you "private" badge. By the way, that practice kept going on to at least the mid-1990's (my wife got her graduation badge this way back then...).

Marc

04-26-2011, 07:19 PM	#2
EricFG Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Naples, Florida, USA Age: 59 Posts: 1,496	Re: What can you tell me about these two? ВВМИУ = VVMIU = Higher Naval School Inzhenenernoe = Высшее Военно Морское Инжененерное Училище ??? __________________ "patina imparts character" - PJS A wise man said: 'you should not pay a premium for what you want beyond your comfort level, and always ensure there is a mutually agreeable return policy.'

04-27-2011, 08:38 PM	#4
EricFG Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Naples, Florida, USA Age: 59 Posts: 1,496	Re: What can you tell me about these two? Thanks for the help, gents. So 70s or 80s, private purchase, unofficial but allowed on the uniform for the School rhombus? __________________ "patina imparts character" - PJS A wise man said: 'you should not pay a premium for what you want beyond your comfort level, and always ensure there is a mutually agreeable return policy.'

04-28-2011, 06:42 AM	#7
EricFG Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Naples, Florida, USA Age: 59 Posts: 1,496	Re: What can you tell me about these two? Because with no Red Book to guide us on this all I have is the theories floated in places like this to go on. My understanding was the graduates, post 1950 something, bought these themselves hence the term 'private purchase'. Maybe my terminology is incorrect. __________________ "patina imparts character" - PJS A wise man said: 'you should not pay a premium for what you want beyond your comfort level, and always ensure there is a mutually agreeable return policy.'

04-28-2011, 04:02 PM	#8
Lapa Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: St Petersburg, Russia Age: 63 Posts: 2,397	Re: What can you tell me about these two? Eric, As far as I know, graduates received their diploma and a badge upon graduation; no need to run around purchasing you "private" badge. By the way, that practice kept going on to at least the mid-1990's (my wife got her graduation badge this way back then...). Marc

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