Fake Order And Medal Booklets

[Alfred]

congratulation Auke,

sometimes things are better we thought.

[deValcourt]

I know it's easier to say "yeah, that's good" after the evidence has come in, but I can see where Kolpak's entries were at least done by the same person. And I have to admit I am surprised about the other one being good. Like Andreas said (only more so), sometimes we/I look for faults before looking for something to be genuine - if that makes sense.:)

Phillip

[Norm Braddock]

I feel it imperative to challenge you all to keep you guys sharp.

There is something VERY wrong with this booklet.

Pls provide commentary.:thumbsup

:B)

[ph3s]

I would say, the same story. RS and the rest of entrys done by the same hand but ORB is added

[deValcourt]

I would say, the same story. RS and the rest of entrys done by the same hand but ORB is added

But somehow I don't think Norm would have given us one that was just that simple...;)

What's up with the signature? He can't write an A for his own name?

Phillip

[ph3s]

But somehow I don't think Norm would have given us one that was just that simple...;)

What's up with the signature? He can't write an A for his own name?

Phillip

That's note concerning me, you see the persons surname and name sounds Armenian (one of those surname which got changed the end of it-yan became to be ov) Most of this people had very poor education that days. I would even say the signature is too perfect for an Armenian, who sigh in Russian

Buuuut I'll think harder, I just realised it's kinda quiz, not usual case.

[Lapa]

Guys,

I was in Tallinn last week, and I was offered quite a few of "ready for action" booklets: original order books on which the name and all the SNs were washed, nice picture in place with stamp on it, and sometimes extra awards added... :mad:

Marc

[deValcourt]

This all brings up a question that's been bouncing around in my (empty) head for some time: normally, were all the awards earned by one person, say during WWII, listed together in a single booklet? I can understand that if someone were awarded say, a Medal for Valiant Labor, then several years later an ORBL for some scientific breakthrough, then 10 years later as a statesman or some other politician, received an October Revolution that each would be issued with separate booklets. What I get very suspicious about is seeing three orders allegedly awarded to the same person - an ORS, Order of Badge of Honor and ORBL - all within 10 years and with individual hardcover booklets.

I know it is possible and maybe even likely in the case of non-military awards, but what was the "norm" (if any)?

These questions have bothered me for a very long time.:confused:

Phillip

[CtahhR]

I have had order documents of which a chap got a pile of and also have a single document which had 42 years worth of awards in it so I do believe it is rather hit and miss. I'm sure some folk put their book in a drawer and some in their pocket.

[Pobeda45]

Really no way to tell, but I personally would avoid both for the addition of the OPWII and the photo. If the booklet was filled out in '47, we can assume the recipient had already been granted both awards.

Yeah, makes perfect sense.
The second stamp and number for the GPW2 was likely added recently..

George